[ he can peer into lens, there's general samples there but idk science though most of them are probably plant samples anyways. ]

...I think it could take longer. Though, depending on what kind of decisions were made because of that growth... [ they think about it ] ...Yes, it might take more terrible situations to eventually make it feel worth it.

But, I also think it depends on the person. [ quieter ] It... took me hundreds of loops to get to where I am now. And even then, I know there's still more room for improvement. That might not be the same for others though. [ someone else may feel they need to go through more to come close to it feeling worth the growth. ]