I don't really doubt that. He seems honest enough. [ which he can at least sort of understand. ] It feels like he's the one of that team I know the least. You've talked to him that much?
I wouldn't say I've talked to him that much but. [ they glance down to the grass beside where they sit. ]
..He checked up on me after last Friday's investigations. [ after Setsu nearly got hit by a train. ] He said some things that day, about how we had to make sure we keep looking out for each other. [ ... ]
So I guess you could say it's just... a hunch, I guess? That I feel like he's trustworthy. ...He was pretty angry about what happened to Rin, and explained how as much as he wanted to say something- he wasn't able to. Wasn't allowed. ...I just can't see him as being someone terrible.
[ he decides not to point out that people can be good actors. he doesn't think buzen's like that, necessarily, but there are all kinds of people out there who could say nice placating things and turn out to be responsible for the hardships.
but they're talking about buzen, and he can really only take their word for it. ]
...maybe not, no. I don't even know how long they might've all known that someone from their team was going to be doing the killing or what they've all discussed. I'm not even sure how well they work together as a team. So maybe it's not surprising Buzen wanted to say something, even at the risk of the team.
[ Setsu is fortunately not that naive, though often they fall back on their intuition for most things... they have dealt with numerous types of people in their loops. some using false generosity and care just to twist for their own means. they can tell when someone isn't how they claim and stage themselves to be.
of course, that experience is then and this is here. these are new people and yet, it's different for buzen. they can't ignore their own intuition on this, not with what they know. it's hard to trust anyone readily, especially when it regards people they don't nearly talk to as much as they do with Jonas, with Alex and-- but some of his words they think on they do trust. even if a little. it does not compare to who is with him now, and the rest but. ]
Buzen had mentioned he had known since Friday. Though, he also said that though he couldn't say it directly about what had happened, he did try in ways that he could. ..And then there was Matsui who provided that information with Hydrokinesis. [ without that, would they have reached the conclusion? maybe the suspicion would be there after Setsu managed to pick apart the lake and assume it could be water related. ] ..Last week, they had told me that as tsukumogami, it's their duty to protect humanity. So seeing them wanting to try and help us rather than their team...
[ after someone in their own team went after someone like Rin. ] ...It probably won't be that way in the future. Some teams are more likely to cover for another depending on what happens.
[ it all makes sense. now that they know what they know, several pieces are lining up including the hallucinations and psychs used. the way the events played out is still a mystery, and he's still not entirely sure he agrees with them hinting so hard that it was someone from their team, but he's not going to voice those opinions either. everyone's view on their teams is different, and everyone's morals are different. ]
I wouldn't be surprised if more teams tried to cover for each other. But I don't think BDSM has been really that stable from the start. Rang kind of gave me that impression earlier, so...it isn't as surprising that Buzen and Matsui were trying to do what was best for us instead of themselves.
[ for their own situation, it was the best Setsu could have hoped for. for the sake of winning, for figuring out who doomed Rin's fate to erasure. but... they are thinking of teams over all and... quietly, ]
I know our team had a discussion early on about avoiding erasure if possible. [ their thoughts trail to a conversation before this. "Do the others know?" ] If you, or any of the others, feel the need to do it... I would support you.
[ it's as simple as that. the fact that someone like Rin was lost this week, it's awful. there are some others Setsu would also not like to lose but. if it came down to it, Setsu would unfortunately be the type to cover for them. ]
[ ...mm. it's something they can't keep avoiding, really. he's always known that. he's always known it would come to a time where they're going to have to make some kind of decision regarding the fate of other people and it wouldn't be the easiest decision to make. ]
...thanks, Setsu. [ it's what he says, because he thinks they have a point. ] Anything could happen to any of us, so...support is about the best thing we can do for each other. Even if it looks a little different for each situation.
[ it's at least something to be addressed. Setsu has given it considerable thought to bringing it up to Alex as well, but knows how strongly opposed to it she was. and Kazuki.... well. so, they decided to start here, with Jonas. ]
It can always be a little different, yes. [ ... ] ..I know I've told you once before, that I would be willing to do whatever it takes. [even if it meant that ] Which isn't to say I have any plans as of now or something like that.
[ "Do the others know?" ] But at the end, if it comes down to it, I don't mind being the one to do it if it means securing our team's return home.
Let's not think of anything too rash yet. You and I both know we're going to eventually have to do this, but I did talk to the reapers. Obviously your team can know. You could even plan a whole erasure with your team if you wanted. [ but they both know getting the other two on board might be a lot harder. ]
...we have a little bit of time, but probably not much. I don't want any of us sacrificing ourselves. If we're doing something, we're going to plan to make sure we get away with it.
[ it's not something that kazuki nor alex would approve of. which is fine, and Setsu was ready to accept that if someone had to- they could take that step to do it. as long as someone was aware of it... then that was enough. ]
I would rather avoid sacrificing at all costs as well. [ they can agree on that. it's the pragmatic part of their nature, if they plan to do it- they want to get away with it. and they'll do whatever they can to. ] ..But I understand. I get it. We have some time until then but, I'm ready to support with anything.
[ they glance back to the waters for a moment, before glancing to the side at him. ] Whatever it is we decide on.
...I think we both know what the decision will be in the end, Setsu. [ unless something drastically changes, they both know they're going to have to figure out an erasure if they want to stay ahead in the game. ] But it can wait a little longer until we have more information and see more about what happens next. It's good to be thinking about it, but I think we shouldn't think too much about it either just in case.
It makes sense, yes. After all, gathering more information will always come first for me. [ it's what they're used to. and if maybe they find out more later, that could give them that extra step they need.. all the better. ]
Tomorrow is the execution so... [ ah ] You did your secret task, right?
You put in a lot of work, Jonas. I think you do just fine. [ a lot of his theorizing back and forth during trial really proves that. but, they nod. ] We should spend a moment as a team to share everything we know so far. [ ... ] There's actually something that I received not long after I came back on Thursday that I've been meaning to share, but... I can wait until a better time when we regroup.
[ help me, finding the time to DO IT IS HARD. ]
That's good. I... guess if it doesn't count, we might find out on Monday. [ but let's hope that isn't the case. ] I ended up speaking with Vash for mine, so I should be alright.
A lot of that is just...guesses I'm making. I don't always think what I'm saying makes sense, but if it's worth enough for other people to look into stuff, then I don't mind. [ but he blinks in surprise at that. ] Something like...what? I mean I guess it can wait until we're all together. Or...close enough.
[ sweats in kazuki. ]
We'll know by Monday. [ a pause. ] You told him about the key then? I know you'd mentioned that.
[ I DIDN'T GET THIS NOOOOTIFF. BEATS UP DW.... let me tag my ty ]
Guesses and theorizing are still helpful. [ they would probably squeeze their hand here to assure him but i forgo if they're holding hands here. anyways, ] It was a message on my phone. I can't exactly respond back to it though, but it mentions talk about prepping for new game and volunteering the best Reapers. I'm assuming it's talking about the one we're in. It doesn't give off a whole lot but it's something new.
[ and nobody has brought it up yet?!?!! so me just like i hold this lore i guess. they could show him on their phone right here and right now, but they'll leave it to him to decide if he wants to see it now or later. ]
Yes, I showed the "Silver Key" and told him what it was. But I only mentioned that it was a parasite and that it was fixated on me alone for information. Since, he was pretty scared about it draining my life force or anyone's for that matter. [ the immediate panic reaction from vash was valid though. ] ..I didn't bring up my time loops though.
Did you take a screenshot at least just in case it disappears? That's...really weird. We knew that we were a part of a new game but we've never really had a chance to figure out a timeline or what this means. And I don't know if you'd get an answer from the reapers.
[ he wants to see it...but he thinks maybe it's important as a team? to see? cries in kazuki. but nevertheless he moves on. ]
...nothing in the rules say you have to be completely honest about stuff. Explaining the silver key and what it is should be enough. I'm glad you were able to tell him. [ he also thinks vash is valid, actually. ]
I did, just to make sure I didn't lose it later. But it's been a few days and it's still there. I need to doublecheck with Nahida, Kaveh and Matsui later to see if they got the very same message or maybe even something different.
[ he moves on... it's okay, we cry in team but it'll happen w2... ill throw it up on tues if i have to. ]
...Mmm. It isn't as if the key really affects anyone else outside me, so it should be fine. [ it is their fate on the line after all. ]
It couldn't hurt to compare and make sure it's all the same. If they didn't, I...don't necessarily mind sharing with them what we've learned as long as they'll do the same for us. We have the alliance with Go To Sleep, and I do trust Matsui. If we have to, we can drop the screenshots in our group chat for everybody to look later.
[ tada. ]
The key doesn't affect anyone else, sure, but maybe...knowing about it will help other people understand things better. Worked for us that way, didn't it?
[ they nod, because this all sounds right to them. also making note of possibly just dropping the screenshot if it really is that difficult to get the whole group together. read: get kazuki to stay long enough with the rest of them. ]
..It did. [ an appreciative look, before they glance down to check the time on the phone. ] Hmm. Should probably head back soon...
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[ they glance back towards the water, staring at the center of the lake. ]
...I trust that he will keep his word.
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..He checked up on me after last Friday's investigations. [ after Setsu nearly got hit by a train. ] He said some things that day, about how we had to make sure we keep looking out for each other. [ ... ]
So I guess you could say it's just... a hunch, I guess? That I feel like he's trustworthy. ...He was pretty angry about what happened to Rin, and explained how as much as he wanted to say something- he wasn't able to. Wasn't allowed. ...I just can't see him as being someone terrible.
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but they're talking about buzen, and he can really only take their word for it. ]
...maybe not, no. I don't even know how long they might've all known that someone from their team was going to be doing the killing or what they've all discussed. I'm not even sure how well they work together as a team. So maybe it's not surprising Buzen wanted to say something, even at the risk of the team.
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of course, that experience is then and this is here. these are new people and yet, it's different for buzen. they can't ignore their own intuition on this, not with what they know. it's hard to trust anyone readily, especially when it regards people they don't nearly talk to as much as they do with Jonas, with Alex and-- but some of his words they think on they do trust. even if a little. it does not compare to who is with him now, and the rest but. ]
Buzen had mentioned he had known since Friday. Though, he also said that though he couldn't say it directly about what had happened, he did try in ways that he could. ..And then there was Matsui who provided that information with Hydrokinesis. [ without that, would they have reached the conclusion? maybe the suspicion would be there after Setsu managed to pick apart the lake and assume it could be water related. ] ..Last week, they had told me that as tsukumogami, it's their duty to protect humanity. So seeing them wanting to try and help us rather than their team...
[ after someone in their own team went after someone like Rin. ] ...It probably won't be that way in the future. Some teams are more likely to cover for another depending on what happens.
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I wouldn't be surprised if more teams tried to cover for each other. But I don't think BDSM has been really that stable from the start. Rang kind of gave me that impression earlier, so...it isn't as surprising that Buzen and Matsui were trying to do what was best for us instead of themselves.
Guess we just take this as a gift.
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I know our team had a discussion early on about avoiding erasure if possible. [ their thoughts trail to a conversation before this. "Do the others know?" ] If you, or any of the others, feel the need to do it... I would support you.
[ it's as simple as that. the fact that someone like Rin was lost this week, it's awful. there are some others Setsu would also not like to lose but. if it came down to it, Setsu would unfortunately be the type to cover for them. ]
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...thanks, Setsu. [ it's what he says, because he thinks they have a point. ] Anything could happen to any of us, so...support is about the best thing we can do for each other. Even if it looks a little different for each situation.
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It can always be a little different, yes. [ ... ] ..I know I've told you once before, that I would be willing to do whatever it takes. [even if it meant that ] Which isn't to say I have any plans as of now or something like that.
[ "Do the others know?" ] But at the end, if it comes down to it, I don't mind being the one to do it if it means securing our team's return home.
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Let's not think of anything too rash yet. You and I both know we're going to eventually have to do this, but I did talk to the reapers. Obviously your team can know. You could even plan a whole erasure with your team if you wanted. [ but they both know getting the other two on board might be a lot harder. ]
...we have a little bit of time, but probably not much. I don't want any of us sacrificing ourselves. If we're doing something, we're going to plan to make sure we get away with it.
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I would rather avoid sacrificing at all costs as well. [ they can agree on that. it's the pragmatic part of their nature, if they plan to do it- they want to get away with it. and they'll do whatever they can to. ] ..But I understand. I get it. We have some time until then but, I'm ready to support with anything.
[ they glance back to the waters for a moment, before glancing to the side at him. ] Whatever it is we decide on.
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If that makes sense?
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It makes sense, yes. After all, gathering more information will always come first for me. [ it's what they're used to. and if maybe they find out more later, that could give them that extra step they need.. all the better. ]
Tomorrow is the execution so... [ ah ] You did your secret task, right?
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[ there's a pause. ]
...I think so? Probably close enough, at least.
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[ help me, finding the time to DO IT IS HARD. ]
That's good. I... guess if it doesn't count, we might find out on Monday. [ but let's hope that isn't the case. ] I ended up speaking with Vash for mine, so I should be alright.
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[ sweats in kazuki. ]
We'll know by Monday. [ a pause. ] You told him about the key then? I know you'd mentioned that.
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Guesses and theorizing are still helpful. [ they would probably squeeze their hand here to assure him but i forgo if they're holding hands here. anyways, ] It was a message on my phone. I can't exactly respond back to it though, but it mentions talk about prepping for new game and volunteering the best Reapers. I'm assuming it's talking about the one we're in. It doesn't give off a whole lot but it's something new.
[ and nobody has brought it up yet?!?!! so me just like i hold this lore i guess. they could show him on their phone right here and right now, but they'll leave it to him to decide if he wants to see it now or later. ]
Yes, I showed the "Silver Key" and told him what it was. But I only mentioned that it was a parasite and that it was fixated on me alone for information. Since, he was pretty scared about it draining my life force or anyone's for that matter. [ the immediate panic reaction from vash was valid though. ] ..I didn't bring up my time loops though.
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Did you take a screenshot at least just in case it disappears? That's...really weird. We knew that we were a part of a new game but we've never really had a chance to figure out a timeline or what this means. And I don't know if you'd get an answer from the reapers.
[ he wants to see it...but he thinks maybe it's important as a team? to see? cries in kazuki. but nevertheless he moves on. ]
...nothing in the rules say you have to be completely honest about stuff. Explaining the silver key and what it is should be enough. I'm glad you were able to tell him. [ he also thinks vash is valid, actually. ]
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[ he moves on... it's okay, we cry in team but it'll happen w2... ill throw it up on tues if i have to. ]
...Mmm. It isn't as if the key really affects anyone else outside me, so it should be fine. [ it is their fate on the line after all. ]
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[ tada. ]
The key doesn't affect anyone else, sure, but maybe...knowing about it will help other people understand things better. Worked for us that way, didn't it?
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..It did. [ an appreciative look, before they glance down to check the time on the phone. ] Hmm. Should probably head back soon...
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...let's go. [ gently lays this thread to rest. ]