Alex mentioned she had a lot of... anger. That the Ghosts seemed pretty angry too. She thinks maybe that made it easier to possess her... [ which, Setsu thinks that it makes sense. with similar emotions, it would be easier to resonate, wouldn't it? and for those quieter... mm. ] I do remember you saying it before. But seeing it from her point of view as well...
[ well, if he won't shake it off, they'll hold onto his hand now. lightly though, though it squeezes a little at his words. cause yeah, it's actually pretty bad. but... Setsu knows everyone deals with things differently. after all, with Setsu in their own situation, the way they managed to-- which is when a memory plays.
as a note, player's name should be "takashi" rather than kaio. also the way i keep changing my mem plans because of things help. plans for more later ig. discussions happen during this mem as well but they're cut out because of TIME however you saw me play a bit of gnosia so you know how those discussions generally go. ]
Yeah, that sounds about right. The ghosts were probably having an easier time settling in to something familiar. If someone wasn't fighting them, why would they have to leave? [ but he frowns a little. ] ...she probably had a more clear picture of everything.
[ so yeah. they can hold on while this memory goes and jonas blinks in surprise as he registers everything going on. including captain jonas? which. okay, weird, but he will not ask.
instead...once the memory fades, he's turning to face them again. ]
...so first of all, that feels kind of shitty to be so close to not looping again only for a technicality to screw it up. Secondly, your captain seems like kind of an asshole. And lastly...can the Gnosia really infect someone who isn't really...y'know. Alive?
...I should've known better, admittedly. The loops wouldn't stop just like that... [ they grip at one of their arms at that. though, the mention of the captain gets a quiet chuckle ] He's... definitely vexing.
[ captain jonas SURE IS A CHARACTER. ]
Well, considering the body of an AI can get infected, as well as someone not at all human like a beluga whale... as long as they are capable of having a mind of their own, it's possible.
I don't think you can blame yourself for feeling a little hopeful that something as draining as your loops finally stopped. [ but...there's a frown again. ] So if that's possible then...did that mean the captain was purposefully hiding that the doll was infected? Why? What was she to him?
I guess so... [ there's something particularly numbing about having some hope and then having it snatched away. ] Even so, it was nice to consider the future for once..
[ because that was the first time they had done it since entering the loops. and here, they've been able to think about it more. with jonas. with alex. ]
In that particular loop, no he wouldn't have known. Unless they both happen to be Gnosia, that would be the only way I think, but in general loops, he would not think it to be possible. [ he's admittedly kinda stupid. ] He worships her. She has extremely similar qualities to someone he once loved and lost.
...the future's always worth considering, even if you don't know when that future will come. [ he's kind of a hypocrite for saying this, but setsu doesn't have to know that. instead, he focuses on everything else. ]
I think I can understand latching onto something that feels familiar, but it's still a little creepy when you put it that way. It's not a real thing when it's like that.
... [ their lips part, as if to say something about that but... they close their mouth, and seem to decide against saying it. it's probably best that way. though how dare you, let setsu know that. ]
It is a bit unsettling, I can agree with you on that. I've never quite understood it myself.
[ but as a tweat on this exhausting week, another mem can play. ]
[ FISHING? he watches this for a while, blinking rapidly in confusion about fishing before the memory fades again. ]
...as much as I hate the way you were put into cold sleep after all of that, it's...a good thing your friend knew when to give you a break and take you to do something fun. Like a nice memory before the last part of that loop.
[ FISHING!! there's a wistful look in their eye, a bit distracted by the memory until they look over to him. even now, they do not seem upset or bothered by that decision. ]
It's a sensible decision. By avoiding the strategic Gnosia discussions, we cannot exactly be trusted. For all they knew... we could be the infected ones. It was the safest decision to cold sleep us. [ so, they don't blame them, and.. as he says ] ...It was fun. It was a good memory to make. I've been trying to keep it in mind, whenever things start to get hard.
[ aka when is probably a good time to have a break.... ]
Yeah I get it's a strategy, but...I don't know. Wouldn't it have also made sense to have a discussion with you again before that? I guess maybe there just wasn't enough time before you had to put someone to sleep. [ still. he does not really seem impressed. ]
I think it's a good idea to hold on to as many good memories as you can for times like these. And for other tough decisions. Even if it didn't end exactly the way you wanted, there was still good in it. That counts for something.
There wouldn't have been much time, no. By the time discussions end, it's night and the warp happens not long after. [ that's fair, they really were just composed about that decision and even now they are. ]
It does... it does count for something. [ it's funny how content they seem to be in the moment, it wasn't a terrible memory to play, it's a wistful thought. but the idea of making many good memories... they like being able to. something to take back with them, haha... ]
Still...even a little extra time. What if something happened that you couldn't actually get to the discussion? They could just throw you out like that?
[ stupid. ]
I know other people might not think so, but...that's all I think about it. [ he shrugs about it. and with that, there is also another memory until 2:01:47. ]
If it was something out of our control, then... maybe. But they found us, more or less, goofing off and that was that.
[ you know, once upon a time they may have worded this a bit differently, but clearly they've been hanging around Alex and Jonas so much they're kinda taking up a bit of the way they talk. i think it's a lil funny.
but ah, a memory... it's always such a strange thing. they aren't sure if they'll ever get used to it but... as soon as the memory ends, they aren't really pausing to mull over it ]
She's right, you know. You really are a good guy. [ this one is a good bean ]
[ he kind of smiles in spite of himself because he can pick up on the lil shift in dialect. the situation itself isn't funny at all, but still. ]
Okay, but still.
[ it's more of a token argument than anything. but there's a memory, then, and he goes quiet until it finishes doing its thing. no more barrier. go away. but he pauses, too, while they speak. ]
...it's still a work in progress, and I know that. [ which is as close as he'll get to saying he can kind of believe that most of the time but not always. ]
[ there's only a small smile in response to his slight argument. however, they don't say any more on it. they know there's quite a lot about their experience that wouldn't be wholly agreed upon from others.
but the barrier is gone (whoopee.) they are free. and they glance up, observing him as he answers and... Setsu looks on thoughtfully. ]
Mmm.. the Jonas I have gotten to know, I do like that person. I like who I've seen. [ and no matter his past, they would accept that as well. after all, haven't they done the same for them? despite everything they've done... good and bad, he's still here. ]
[ ...ah. why is it that Jonas and Alex both surprise them like this... "You're the team's favorite," "...you're one of the best people I've met here." the surprise is clear as day on their face before it falls a little with a dip of their head. they don't... but, more importantly ]
...I didn't know that. [ and it's true. they didn't. ] I don't think you'd ever disappoint me, Jonas. Not you.
[ after everything he's done for them? no. they don't think they could ever be disappointed in him. ]
Well. Now you know. And you better not forget it anytime soon. [ it's a joke, but...he wants them to remember they're important to the team. and to him. ] ...I'll do my best to make sure that never changes then. How about that?
I won't forget. How could I? [...even if someday, their team might forget them, they will remember it all. after all, they cherish their connections to the team. and of course with him. more than they could really say.]
Mmm... that'll work. [ softly ] Because I know you will.
...have a little faith in us not forgetting either. I get that it's scary to think about, but...you matter a lot to all three of us. It'd be stupid if we could just forget just like that.
[ which is really all he says, a focus on something he thinks they need a reminder of. ]
[ they feel like it's become almost obvious when their quiet fears of that show. but... ]
...I do. I do have faith in you guys. With you and Alex both. [ after all, Alex is... bound, and Jonas has managed to take notice of the loops after a while, and ] Even Kazuki has thought of his own way to remember.
[ it should be fine. it could be fine. yet, the silver key in their pocket feels incredibly heavy at those thoughts. a quiet sigh] I'll try.
...I'm glad. [ there's a half-smile. ] I know he probably doesn't entirely understand how the loops work like Alex and I sort of do, but you're important to him, too. He'll figure out what works best for him to remember.
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[ well, if he won't shake it off, they'll hold onto his hand now. lightly though, though it squeezes a little at his words. cause yeah, it's actually pretty bad. but... Setsu knows everyone deals with things differently. after all, with Setsu in their own situation, the way they managed to-- which is when a memory plays.
as a note, player's name should be "takashi" rather than kaio. also the way i keep changing my mem plans because of things help. plans for more later ig. discussions happen during this mem as well but they're cut out because of TIME however you saw me play a bit of gnosia so you know how those discussions generally go. ]
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[ so yeah. they can hold on while this memory goes and jonas blinks in surprise as he registers everything going on. including captain jonas? which. okay, weird, but he will not ask.
instead...once the memory fades, he's turning to face them again. ]
...so first of all, that feels kind of shitty to be so close to not looping again only for a technicality to screw it up. Secondly, your captain seems like kind of an asshole. And lastly...can the Gnosia really infect someone who isn't really...y'know. Alive?
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...I should've known better, admittedly. The loops wouldn't stop just like that... [ they grip at one of their arms at that. though, the mention of the captain gets a quiet chuckle ] He's... definitely vexing.
[ captain jonas SURE IS A CHARACTER. ]
Well, considering the body of an AI can get infected, as well as someone not at all human like a beluga whale... as long as they are capable of having a mind of their own, it's possible.
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[ because that was the first time they had done it since entering the loops. and here, they've been able to think about it more. with jonas. with alex. ]
In that particular loop, no he wouldn't have known. Unless they both happen to be Gnosia, that would be the only way I think, but in general loops, he would not think it to be possible. [ he's admittedly kinda stupid. ] He worships her. She has extremely similar qualities to someone he once loved and lost.
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I think I can understand latching onto something that feels familiar, but it's still a little creepy when you put it that way. It's not a real thing when it's like that.
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It is a bit unsettling, I can agree with you on that. I've never quite understood it myself.
[ but as a tweat on this exhausting week, another mem can play. ]
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...as much as I hate the way you were put into cold sleep after all of that, it's...a good thing your friend knew when to give you a break and take you to do something fun. Like a nice memory before the last part of that loop.
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It's a sensible decision. By avoiding the strategic Gnosia discussions, we cannot exactly be trusted. For all they knew... we could be the infected ones. It was the safest decision to cold sleep us. [ so, they don't blame them, and.. as he says ] ...It was fun. It was a good memory to make. I've been trying to keep it in mind, whenever things start to get hard.
[ aka when is probably a good time to have a break.... ]
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I think it's a good idea to hold on to as many good memories as you can for times like these. And for other tough decisions. Even if it didn't end exactly the way you wanted, there was still good in it. That counts for something.
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It does... it does count for something. [ it's funny how content they seem to be in the moment, it wasn't a terrible memory to play, it's a wistful thought. but the idea of making many good memories... they like being able to. something to take back with them, haha... ]
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[ stupid. ]
I know other people might not think so, but...that's all I think about it. [ he shrugs about it. and with that, there is also another memory until 2:01:47. ]
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[ you know, once upon a time they may have worded this a bit differently, but clearly they've been hanging around Alex and Jonas so much they're kinda taking up a bit of the way they talk. i think it's a lil funny.
but ah, a memory... it's always such a strange thing. they aren't sure if they'll ever get used to it but... as soon as the memory ends, they aren't really pausing to mull over it ]
She's right, you know. You really are a good guy. [ this one is a good bean ]
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Okay, but still.
[ it's more of a token argument than anything. but there's a memory, then, and he goes quiet until it finishes doing its thing. no more barrier. go away. but he pauses, too, while they speak. ]
...it's still a work in progress, and I know that. [ which is as close as he'll get to saying he can kind of believe that most of the time but not always. ]
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but the barrier is gone (whoopee.) they are free. and they glance up, observing him as he answers and... Setsu looks on thoughtfully. ]
Mmm.. the Jonas I have gotten to know, I do like that person. I like who I've seen. [ and no matter his past, they would accept that as well. after all, haven't they done the same for them? despite everything they've done... good and bad, he's still here. ]
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...you're one of the best people I've met here. Did you know that? I think out of everybody you'd be one of the ones I'd hate to disappoint the most.
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...I didn't know that. [ and it's true. they didn't. ] I don't think you'd ever disappoint me, Jonas. Not you.
[ after everything he's done for them? no. they don't think they could ever be disappointed in him. ]
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Well. Now you know. And you better not forget it anytime soon. [ it's a joke, but...he wants them to remember they're important to the team. and to him. ] ...I'll do my best to make sure that never changes then. How about that?
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I won't forget. How could I? [...even if someday, their team might forget them, they will remember it all. after all, they cherish their connections to the team. and of course with him. more than they could really say.]
Mmm... that'll work. [ softly ] Because I know you will.
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[ which is really all he says, a focus on something he thinks they need a reminder of. ]
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...I do. I do have faith in you guys. With you and Alex both. [ after all, Alex is... bound, and Jonas has managed to take notice of the loops after a while, and ] Even Kazuki has thought of his own way to remember.
[ it should be fine. it could be fine. yet, the silver key in their pocket feels incredibly heavy at those thoughts. a quiet sigh] I'll try.
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None of us forget things that easily anyway.
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No, I wouldn't say you all are the type to forget things easily.
[ which is them saying, they'll trust in that. they'll... hope. but more importantly, trust in them. ]
...I think after everything, it may be a bit safer to go back with all these pigs roaming around. Maybe we can figure out the food another time.
[ this is also me gently offering us to end this thread for more goodies this week. ]
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[ away the thread goes...tucks it in. ]